Today, possibly the only true statesman of my generation was laid to rest. In honour of that I thought I would post the video below that I’m unashamedly stealing from Eli Rabett. The song is by Johnny Clegg (and – I think – his band Juluka) and is titled Asimbonanga (Mandela), which means We have not seen him (Mandela).

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33 Responses to Farewell

  1. You startled me with that title. I thought you would stop blogging.

    A great loss indeed.

  2. Victor, and probably excited some others 🙂

  3. Rachel says:

    You had me worried too! I thought the same as Victor. Phew.

    What a great song for a great man.

  4. Rachel, when I considered the title I really only considered how excited some might be by my departure from blogging. I didn’t consider that some might be worried 🙂

  5. Rachel says:

    Well I’m very pleased you’re not going to stop blogging and I think those of us who would be saddened by your departure far outnumber those who might be pleased.

  6. Rachel, thank you. I’m sure many would disagree, but it’s nice to hear it said anyway 🙂

  7. Tom Curtis says:

    Asimbonanga——————–(we have not seen him)
    Asimbonang’ umandela thina—–(we have not seen mandela)
    Laph’ekhona——————–(in the place where he is)
    Laph’ehleli khona————–(in the place where he is kept)

    Oh the sea is cold and the sky is grey
    Look across the island into the bay
    We are all islands till comes the day
    We cross the burning water


    A seagull wings across the sea
    Broken silence is what I dream
    Who has the words to close the distance
    Between you and me


    Steve biko, victoria mxenge
    Neil aggett
    Asimbonang ‘umfowethu thina—-(we have not seen our brother)
    Laph’ekhona——————–(in the place where he is)
    Laph’wafela khona————–(in the place where he died)
    Hey wena———————–(hey you!)
    Hey wena nawe——————(hey you and you as well)
    Siyofika nini la’ siyakhona—-(when will we arrive at our destination)

    The island is Robben Island where, curiously, an ancestor of mine was imprisoned for a few years in the 17th century. What is marvelous about the video is when Mandela dances out. We do see him now, for he was released. Hopefully we will keep on seeing him as a guide on how to stand up against injustice, and resolve conflict.

  8. Tom, I had thought the song was apt because we would no longer see him, but I’d missed the relevance of his imprisonment. Thanks.

  9. when I considered the title I really only considered how excited some might be by my departure from blogging.

    So you admit that you intentionally deceived your readers!!

  10. Only if those that choose to base everything on the title without reading the post itself 🙂

  11. Rachel says:

    Good point, Victor. Anders was being intentionally misleading here and that’s just not on.

  12. BBD says:

    Well get him into moderation then. We’re not having behaviour like that on this blog. What are you waiting for?

  13. Rachel says:

    Sadly BBD, I don’t have sufficient privileges to put someone on moderation. All I can do is edit and delete comments or approve those that are pending. But I will be keeping a close eye on his comments from now on. 😉

  14. I’ll do my best to behave myself in future 🙂

  15. I believed in catastrophic anthropogenic global warming all my life. I was active in Greenpeace to help destroy oil platforms and in Agenda 21 to depopulate Africa, I have told my family to turn of the lights, I have told my friends to drive less and I have told my colleagues to turn of their computers in the evening.

    And now I see that you are deceiving us all.

    I no longer believe in climate change, thank you for opening my eyes. I no longer believe in science and will move to a hut in the mountains. Somewhere in the back of my mind I always already knew that all those climate scientists were lying to us.

    Palin for President!

  16. Is this going to be the post title I live to regret? “He said he was leaving and didn’t. We can’t trust anything else he says. Just proves all AGW proponents can’t be trusted about anything.” I suspect in the UK such a discussion would end with “Farage for PM”.

  17. Rachel says:

    Yep, you’re going to have regret this as a punishment of sorts. This is what the Daily Mail do. They suck you in with a misleading headline and then when you read the article you realise it was not what the headline implied but something different altogether. You’re a very naughty boy.

  18. 🙂

    Do not forget the female hypothesis by Tol.

    Even if statistics can show that female physicists do not exist. Which is weird, by the way, as there are plenty of female meteorology students and the first years of meteorology and physics are very similar.

  19. Rachel says:

    It doesn’t sound quite as good to say “she’s a very naughty girl”.

  20. For those that did not watch the video: Dr Civil is not the messiah.

  21. Rachel says:

    Victor, there’s something about the name Dr Civil that makes me think villain. I’m not completely sure why but I think I associate it with Dr Strangelove and Dr No. Don’t let me put you off using it though, I just thought it was funny.

  22. Same association. That is why I it. It has a little edge.

    And it is fitting isn’t it? Aren’t all scientists criminals, at least potentially as soon as they speak in public?

  23. Victor, sounds like you need to write an advocacy post on your blog to get some things off your chest 🙂 I’d certainly read it.

  24. Dr Civil, I think my post would be very similar to this one: http://t.co/6UfhaTZm6l

  25. It is interesting to realize that what Johnny Clegg and Sipho Mchunu where doing with Juluka was every bit a part of the revolution in South Africa as what the ANC was doing. In the 70s and 80s having an integrated band perform was illegal and there shows were broken up and the band arrested many times.

    Personally, I’ve always enjoyed Johnny Clegg and have several of his albums in my collection. But you can’t forget that his commitment to the revolution was every bit as real as Mandela’s.

  26. AnOilMan says:

    Rachel; Regarding Dr Civil

    Undoubtedly, in battling the denial community you’ve begun to notice that few if any are what they claim to be. But then again… who’s trust “Selfish Business Man Out To Make A Buck No Matter What”.

    I lived in SA to the mid 80s. It is interesting hearing the far right gnash their teeth at Mandela these days.

  27. Rachel says:

    I think I’m more likely to trust the self-confessed “Selfish Business Man Out To Make A Buck No Matter What” than the person who conceals their special interests and hides behind fake politeness. I’ve encountered a couple of these and they’re the worst.

  28. AnOilMan says:

    Rachel… That is very true. I’d rather know where someone stands than be hoodwinked.

    But in a public space its all about perception.

  29. Rachel says:

    If anyone is feeling a little down about blog and twitter disagreements today then I recommend re-watching this video with a very joyful Nelson Mandela in it to life spirits. He looks so happy and you can’t fake happiness like that.

    There’s a Shakespeare quote I rather like (not that I want to give the impression that I’m clever or anything by quoting Shakespeare because I’m not) but I thought it might be appropriate.
    Reputation is an idle and most false imposition, oft got without merit and lost without deserving.

  30. Rachel, it is rather wonderful. Certainly raises the spirits 🙂

  31. AnOilMan says:

    In this day and age, I’m not sure what reputation means any more.

  32. AnOilMan, agreed, I don’t really get it either. It seems to me that there are a number of people (who shall remain nameless) who have done things in the climate change debate that you would imagine would completely destroy their reputations. Doesn’t seem, as far as I can tell, to have had any particular effect on their reputation or credibility (with some, at least).

  33. AnOilMan says:

    With your example the issue at hand is how much their reputation means within the community they are acting. Its easy to behave in bad faith if it won’t come back to haunt you.

    This is why peer review is important. If you want to get published you have to behave. On the other hand if you write garbage, you’ll get shunted away, as has happened with John Christy who’s last paper got punted to a Korean Journal. Whether that is hurtful, I don’t know. He’s a member of so many communities besides the people he supposedly works with.

    There are no such mechanisms in place for bloggers, or armchair imagineers.

    I believe that this is all part and parcel of our incredibly mobile population. We don’t know our neighbors, and probably don’t care. That is not what society was like 50 years ago or 100 years ago. Read Tyndall 1861 again, and see how he talks about other people. He talks about their reputations.

    Click to access tyndall-1861.pdf

    Equally interesting is his use for the word ‘insensible’. Possibly demonstrating that kind of communication ass hattery we are all talking about. (Application and intent of that word may be different from then to now but it is food for though.)

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